can you have a backhandspring, back layout series in a level 8 USAG beam routine?

[gymnaSTICKs]

just curious... is a backhandspring back layout series allowed? (lvl 8 beam)

[awposey1]

no. The back layout is a D and not allowed in level 8.

[TDiver]

Yes, actually i think you can. My old teamate competed it for level 8 last year as a level 8. I believe they changed the rules to where you can do D's but i think they count as C's.

All I know is that she competed it. And I wondered the same thing at the time.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

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Originally Posted by TDiver Yes, actually i think you can. My old teamate competed it for level 8 last year as a level 8. I believe they changed the rules to where you can do D's but i think they count as C's.

I thought that was the rule at 9?

To the best of my knowledge, no, you cannot compete a layout on beam at 8. You cannot compete any D (there may be an exception for dance D's, I'd have to check).

[hammy]

I'm pretty sure that D's can be competed--they're just counted as C's at level 8, and D's are D's at level 9, but i'm not 100% sure.

[CoachL]

it was allowed in years past because it was a "C". I believe this year the updated the code making it a D. I had most of my 8's doing it last year, but none this year. I'll ask the the beam coach I tend to forget most beam code

[gymnaSTICKs]

hmmm thanks for the responses, guys - everyone has different answers, so if anyone looks into it and has a solid response please let me know :]

[jcggymnast]

hey yeah u can do a bhs layout step out in level 8 as usag rules u rele cant im a level eight and i an doing both layout step out andn bhs backtuck on the beam but i dont know for sure

[CoachL]

It was updated in the code this last off season. It is now a D and can no longer be done.

[gymdog]

Same thing happened to the aerial, which was getting more common in L8 before it was changed to a D. You can't do Ds in L8 without penalty and a D in L9 is effectively counted as a C for connection purposes because there's no difficulty bonus and C+C qualifies for max connective so basically all a D can be counted as is a C. A "D" value beam acro skill like a layout will void the exercise in L8.

You can find this information in this PDF: http://www.usa-gymnastics.org/Portal...levreqtext.pdf, but here are the relevant sections:

Level 8:

“C’s” receive “B” Value Part credit.
“D/E” BB/FX Acro elem. & UB mounts,
dismounts & releases VOID exercise.
All other “D/E’s” receive 2.00 penalty

& no Value Part credit is given.

Level 9:

No difficulty restrictions; however, if a
“D” or “E” element is performed, it
receives “C” Value Part credit. “D’s”
and “E’s” are considered as “C’s” for

Connection Value.