wrist suggestions please - Page 2

gym law mom · 08-14-2008, 11:51 AM

I would go in and tell the coaches how much pain she's in and make sure they watch her also and keep her off bars and vaulting for awhile otherwise you're just going to go back and forth with this and she'll get to a point of real frustration. No, these kids don't want to sit down or take a break, but she has to or she'll end up losing part of a season. Better a little rest now than alot of time off later.

Mom2Gymgirls · 08-14-2008, 02:20 PM


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Originally Posted by flippymonkeysmom Ok - my dd is having major issues with her wrist. We went to the ortho and he said it was tendinitis. Has anyone had any experience with this?? She is getting so frustrated because mentally she is so focused right now and really wants to work.

Hey, I hear what you are saying. My 10 year old has had wrist pain since February and been on restricted activity since April. From April to the end of May she still did vault and tumbling with a tiger paw on her right hand, but then the doctor told her no weight on her wrists, period. Here we are now in mid-August with no improvements. We are going to see a hand surgeon at the end of this month for a 2nd opinion. The ortho doctor said he's confident it's an overuse injury that will get better with rest, but he said we could go see this other guy just to make sure there's nothing that he's missed.

Meanwhile, my daughter is going crazy to get back into the swing of things. She's been going to practice only 1-2 times per week and doing lots of conditioning, leaps, jumps, turns, etc. We only have 3 months to the first meet, so she of course is very frustrated that this is taking so long to heal.

She was told not to do any strengthening exercises until the pain goes away, but I've been kind of wondering if that's true or not.

KBT · 08-14-2008, 03:53 PM

The frustrating thing to me is that many gymnast have somewhat undiagnosable injuries. Many gymnasts have loose ligaments which can cause pain even without an official injury. We also tend to pound on joints differently than other sports, and I don't think many doctors understand how to deal with gymnasts. And when I'm tested for strength and ROM, it appears normal for the general population, but it's not normal for me. I've had injuries to both knees and my arm (only one of them actually being from gymnastics) and all three times my doctors have been unhelpful. I feel like I'm diagnosing and curing myself.

Maybe you could get your daughter into an activity that will help her gymnastics while she heals. What about doing ballet? Or putting her in a trampoline class? Both of these would be wrist-friendly, but still allow her to make progress with her gymnastics.

flippymonkeysmom · 08-14-2008, 03:54 PM

I put her back in the splint until she goes back to the doctor next week. I told her coach this morning how much it is hurting - but my dd just doesn't seem to understand what not putting weight on her wrist means. Before I left this morning I was talking to another mom and I looked over and she was doing back walkovers, front limbers, etc. I went over and asked her what she was doing and she said - just warming up - so apparently that doesn't count. Then when I picked her up she said she didn't do too much tumbling - just some bhs back tucks and layouts. I was like - hello - you really are blond aren't you!! (I can say that b/c I am the blondest of them all, lol). Anyway - since she obviously is going to keep using it unless she can't, I told her she has to keep the splint on. I don't think she realizes how much time she spends on her hands instead of her feet.

Thank you all so much for your support - it really sucks when they have injuries doesn't it !!!

**bogwoppit** · 08-14-2008, 04:08 PM

Put it in a sling for a day, then she'll get the idea.

Tell her that nasty lady from the Chalkbucket said so.

charloadams · 08-14-2008, 04:40 PM


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Originally Posted by Mom2Gymgirls Hey, I hear what you are saying. My 10 year old has had wrist pain since February and been on restricted activity since April. From April to the end of May she still did vault and tumbling with a tiger paw on her right hand, but then the doctor told her no weight on her wrists, period. Here we are now in mid-August with no improvements. We are going to see a hand surgeon at the end of this month for a 2nd opinion. The ortho doctor said he's confident it's an overuse injury that will get better with rest, but he said we could go see this other guy just to make sure there's nothing that he's missed. Meanwhile, my daughter is going crazy to get back into the swing of things. She's been going to practice only 1-2 times per week and doing lots of conditioning, leaps, jumps, turns, etc. We only have 3 months to the first meet, so she of course is very frustrated that this is taking so long to heal. She was told not to do any strengthening exercises until the pain goes away, but I've been kind of wondering if that's true or not.

Wow! That looks a lot like my story. I was reading this and I could really relate it to my problem. Here it goes,

I've had wrist pain for almost 1 year now. At the begining of last year, I woke up with this, strange pain in my wrist that no one (doctors) could tell me what it was. They told me all the possible things, sprain, moved bones, broken bone, overuse injury, torn ligament, and even a bone disease.

Once, I went to a physio, and he told me he could feel a little bump, which felt just like a ganglion (cyst). He sent me to see another doctor, who then told me that if you can't see the bump, then it's not a cyst.

So I went and saw another doctor, then another one, and then another one. And I went through almost all the test for the wrists, like an x-ray, a CT scan, and an MRI.

The MRI, was the only test that showed something, a cyst, but the doctor who sent me for this test, told my dad that this wasn't the problem, it couldn't be.

I was almost sure, from all my reasearch on the internet, that this was the cause of my wrist pain.

So we went to a plastic surgeon, and he finally made the diagnose that this cyst, was for sure the problem. So I lost my whole season because of this cyst, and I might loose this season too. But I'm so happy that someone finally told me what was the problem.

Now, I just need to find a surgeon who wants to get this thing out of me!!!

gymdog · 08-14-2008, 06:00 PM


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Originally Posted by flippymonkeysmom I put her back in the splint until she goes back to the doctor next week. I told her coach this morning how much it is hurting - but my dd just doesn't seem to understand what not putting weight on her wrist means. Before I left this morning I was talking to another mom and I looked over and she was doing back walkovers, front limbers, etc. I went over and asked her what she was doing and she said - just warming up - so apparently that doesn't count. Then when I picked her up she said she didn't do too much tumbling - just some bhs back tucks and layouts. I was like - hello - you really are blond aren't you!! (I can say that b/c I am the blondest of them all, lol). Anyway - since she obviously is going to keep using it unless she can't, I told her she has to keep the splint on. I don't think she realizes how much time she spends on her hands instead of her feet. Thank you all so much for your support - it really sucks when they have injuries doesn't it !!!

NO BACK WALKOVERS!!!!! Those are some of the worst for me, hurts more than BHS really at the worst times. I'm now at the point where I can do BWO most of the time (a reasonable amount) without wrist supports but I still sometimes have strike pain on it. Seriously I will send her a message or something

Even tick tocks are better for me because the weight transfer is less abrupt. Also I know girls who have things casted because they couldn't/wouldn't stay off it, or got non-removable casts, or were flat out told they should stop going because the doctors figured it would be too tempting. So I guess you could tell her if she can't keep the splint on and limit flexion, she will have to take time off from going at all.

Mom2Gymgirls · 08-15-2008, 08:05 AM


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Originally Posted by charloadams Once, I went to a physio, and he told me he could feel a little bump, which felt just like a ganglion (cyst). He sent me to see another doctor, who then told me that if you can't see the bump, then it's not a cyst. So I went and saw another doctor, then another one, and then another one. And I went through almost all the test for the wrists, like an x-ray, a CT scan, and an MRI.

Yeah, the orthopedic told us that he could feel a bump in my daughter's wrist too. The first x-rays she had didn't show much, so she had a MRI too. They told us that the MRI did not show a cyst or a fracture; however it did show low level stress responses. I'm not sure what that means, but he told us to have keep resting. Well she's gone through the whole summer vacation with no improvements. Anyway, we are seeing the hand specialist on the 26th, so we'll see what comes of that. My daughter is getting upset though. She's been talking about quitting gymnastics if it doesn't get better soon.

charloadams · 08-15-2008, 11:00 AM


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Originally Posted by Mom2Gymgirls Yeah, the orthopedic told us that he could feel a bump in my daughter's wrist too. The first x-rays she had didn't show much, so she had a MRI too. They told us that the MRI did not show a cyst or a fracture; however it did show low level stress responses. I'm not sure what that means, but he told us to have keep resting. Well she's gone through the whole summer vacation with no improvements. Anyway, we are seeing the hand specialist on the 26th, so we'll see what comes of that. My daughter is getting upset though. She's been talking about quitting gymnastics if it doesn't get better soon.

Oh yeah?! well, maybe she also has that. It's very common in gymnast's wrists.

Maybe the MRI didn't show the cyst because it was smaller then usual. They grow, and then they get smaller, and then they grow again. It's often like that with these.

You know, sometimes I also wonder if I should quit too. But I do think that now, it doesn't only affect me with gymnastics, it's for everything! I can't lift my dog with that hand. (I have a toy puddle lol). Sometimes, when it hurts too much, I can't even dress up with that hand.

It's really, an everyday problem, not only with sports. And I know that once I get that sugery, if everything goes well, I'll be able to do everything I use to do, including my favorite sport! That's what keeps me going.

Tumblequeensmom · 08-15-2008, 01:23 PM

My DD also had a ganglion cyst in her wrist. They are "lumps" right at the joint in the wrist. It would get large and hurt, then it would get small again. Finally it got REALLY HUGE and I made a Dr.'s appointment for the following Monday (this was a Thursday). She went to gymnastics practice Friday night and "popped" it during her tumbling. Problem solved, for now. Yes, they do have a tendency to come back. And the "old fashioned" remedy used to be slamming them with a book to pop them and let the fluid drain. (I am NOT kidding... google ganglion cyst)

-Lynn