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JBS i think what you're trying to say is for the gymnast to have their body fully extended so they have no shoulder angle when going from handstand and falling...if you have a shoulder angle you're either a) not going to make it or b) peel off the bar (that's what I did).
I found that it's best to fall straight then hollow after the bottom and pike up over the top--not a huge pike (maybe at first but later more straight).
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