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You might also want to sit down with the cheer coach and discuss the problems you're having. Sounds like it was the cheer coach's idea to get some tumbling help, but if it turns into a battle with the older girls then everyone is wasting their time. Maybe ask the cheer coach to be there at their next tumbling practice to watch and then have a heart to heart with all the girls about how they are behaving. At some point if things don't improve, then it may be time to just offer this class to girls you've identified as being open to working on their tumbling or call the whole thing off.

I certainly like the idea of the video AND a younger gymnast. May just light a fire under them!!
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I am working with the girls again on wednesday so i'll let you know how it goes! I think sowing them how THEY look would be an asset...as cheerleaders don't like to look bad in front of a crowd....as to conditioning, i know they used to do a LITTLE bit but know the have a full conditioning program that i have designed for them to do and to continue during they're competitve season - hopefully the cheer coach will make them stick to it when I'm not around
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It went better...
So my next session with my cheerleaders went much better...They're coach and I sat down with them and discussed what they wanted to get out of the sessions,and what I wanted them to get out of the sessions. It made THEM feel important because I was asking for their feedback. Much smoother training session after that! Thanks Everyone!
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Cheerleaders are such a waste of gym space.

My suggestion is to do the best that you can in terms of teaching technique. But, at the end of the day...keep them happy and take their money. Quite honestly, that's their true purpose in the gym world...money. If it weren't for the almighty dollar, I guarantee that most gymnastics-focused facilities would not offer a cheer program.


What is your problem? Cheerleaders are a waste of gym space? Just take their money? I hope you are not a coach. I would never take my kid to you. Its your fault if they have bad technique. Your supposed to be teaching them. I've been in all-star cheerleading and gymnastics, and the cheerleaders have been more athletic. Just because they aren't trained exactly the same doesn't mean they are worthless. Gymnastics is about being pointed and cheerleading is about power. Thats like if you judged a basketball player as a baseball player. Of course the skill aren't the same, but they both run and score.
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I have to agree with a few of the other posters that the cheerleaders have a totally different attitude than gymnasts. Our gym got rid of the cheer program because the head gym coach did not want the cheerleaders' bad attitudes infecting the gymnasts. They had no idea how to behave in a gym and were very distracting. However, it was entertaining to watch the level 10 gymnasts at their events learning the cheer routines while they waited their turn. One day the cheer coach was so upset with the cheer girls that she brought the level 10 team over to do the dance and tumbling routine the cheerleaders had been working on for weeks without success. The gym girls did the routine almost perfectly. My daughter who was a level 10 at the time stated the difference between the two sports - she said that she wanted the boys cheering for her, she did not want to be cheering for the boys.
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Cheerleaders are such a waste of gym space.

My suggestion is to do the best that you can in terms of teaching technique. But, at the end of the day...keep them happy and take their money. Quite honestly, that's their true purpose in the gym world...money. If it weren't for the almighty dollar, I guarantee that most gymnastics-focused facilities would not offer a cheer program.
With time there will be no more gymnastics-focused facilities. Becoming a CAC or CLOC is much more appealing to true professionals.
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With time there will be no more gymnastics-focused facilities. Becoming a CAC or CLOC is much more appealing to true professionals.
I'm confused... was this comment made in jest or in all seriousness? And what is "CAC" or "CLOC"?
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I hope in jest. I see so few gyms that make a go of the cheerleading. In our gym the two sports never meshed. The gymnasts resented the lacadasical girly girl attitudes of the cheeleaders and the space they took up, and the cheerleaders resented the superior athletic ability of the gymnasts and their place at the top of the gym pecking order. Other than the rudimentary tumbling that cheerleaders do, gymnastics and cheerleading are two totally unrelated activities (I don't buy cheerleading as a sport) and, in my opinion, are best kept separate. There are many successful cheerleading clubs that do a great job with these girls and that is where they should go.
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I'm confused... was this comment made in jest or in all seriousness? And what is "CAC" or "CLOC"?
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C.A.C. - Children's Activity Center

C.L.O.C. - Children's Learning Opportunity Center

Two examples of CLOC's:

Jeff Metzger's Gym (http://www.kidsfirstsports.com)
Frank Sahlein's Gym (http://www.wingscenter.com)

Very serious....gymnastics is a gateway sport....good training for anything and everything. When they leave gymnastics, I'd rather have them doing anything and everything in my facility.
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You have a good point as so few girlsl ever make it through to level 10 or college. I guess it makes business sense from your standpoint so long as you have systems in place to handle the differences and conflicts. I just haven't heard of too many gyms that have made it work. It certainly didn't at our gym. Good luck.
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