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[Monkeygirlsmom]

my youngest is 5 and in rec type gymnastics.
She wants to be a Olympic gymnast someday and has said this for a year now!!
anyhow The gymnastics club we are at they go by levels of Beg 1, Beg 2(wich both my 7 year old and 5 year old are in) my 5 year old has been at this level for a year now and has been the youngest in her group!! the first to be moved up so fast!! anyhow
The next level is Advanced beg!!
the ? I was wondering is what is the best way to get her there!! (well fo rnow the goal is to get where she can compete) I think she has to be 6 am I right? are there things at home we can do!! plus she only goes 1 hour a week!! this summer she will go more but I wanted to wait till we were at a slower pace!!
anyhow She has been in gymnastics since she was just shy of 2!!
(Ok I hope im making sense as I think im not!!! )

[littlegymchampsmom]

Hey MGM ,

I can answer with what I believe is to be true... I am very new to this whole thing as well, but I think I am catching on

What are your club options in your area? Is your gym strictly a rec gym or do they offer a USAG (level 4 - 10) system in place as well? The minimum age for level 4 competition is 6 years old... but that is by no means a cut off age. When she is ready to make the step toward comp. gym she would need to get involved in "the system" by perhaps joining a pre-team and then advancing to team, etc., some clubs start at level 4 (min. comp age 6 yrs), some at level 5 (min. comp. age is 7)... and so it begins. Most clubs will start the girls on a pre-team 1st to work on proper conditioning, strength, flexibility and perfecting the basics to make them strong and then introduce the more difficult skills for the level you are getting involved in... my dd came from a rec level a few months ago (1 hr per week) as well and the transition was great for us, although it is a lot different, more structure, more training/conditioning = more hours (it started at 6 at the time and is now 8 per week). Coming from that background I would say to help her at home practice handstands, handstands, handstands... she can even learn pushups, sit ups and work up to handstand push-ups and if she wants, practice splits too... the hysterical part is that the little ones actually think the stuff is fun . Chances are she would not just be able to join a team and just compete, so keep in my mind it takes time even after they join club to get to that point, my dd can't compete until 7 yrs old and is now 5 and a half - long way to go... but she is having a blast in the meantime.

It sounds like your little one really enjoys her gymnastics - whis is GREAT because it is what its all about! I hope this helps somewhat in helping her reach her dream

LGCM

[Megley]

I agree 100% with what LGCM wrote. If you are in rec gym now, check and see if they have teams competing USAG. If not, you may want to look for a gym in your area that competes USAG. I also have a 5 year old and our experience is probably a pretty typical progression at a gym that competes USAG: My DD started about a year ago in Rec beginner classes going an hour a week, she then moved to what they call developmental, which is a class for kids they think show some potential for team in the future. That was 3 hours a week. She was then moved to Preteam at 6 hours a week, again for kids that are hopefully going to make it to Level 4 (where our gym starts competing). Each of these moves resulted in longer practices and more structure. Preteam is where they really have been working on getting all the skills that go into the routines, as well as an increased emphasis on conditioning. Just Tuesday, I was asked to have my DD come an additional 3 hours a week for 9 total hours as she is being moved to Level 4 team. She will be 6 in time to compete starting in January.

In short, assess what is available at your gym now. If there are teams, then see about getting your daughter into a developmental or preteam program. If they do not compete, look for a gym that does and see where she would fit in there. As LGCM mentions, at home you can do lots of different conditioning stuff as well as practice splits and bridges and handstands. We bought a 4 x 8 mat and the kids use that to practice handstands, handstand bridge kickovers, back walkovers, front and back limbers, cartwheels, roundoffs, backward rolls, etc.

Good luck to your daughter and I hope she makes it to the Olympics!

Meg

[littlegymchampsmom]

Hey Meg

I agree, those are all great things to practice at home, we always thought about investing in a mat, but never took the step - but it does make for a more comfortable practice area lol...

how is the xtra training time going for your dd? does she keep the same coaches or do they have different coaches that work on seperate skills/excercises. I wonder because our program is a little difficult to understand and I think different from a lot of gyms as far as training goes - mostly because it is a new gym, new coaches, new program etc... our pre-team girls are from 5 - 12 yrs and they all work on the same skills, they progress to new skills together and then I guess, ( I still have no clue ) they pull certain girls to team when they decide they are ready.... now our coaches train our pre-team AND they train the team girls which are levels 5 - 10 (ages range from 6 yrs.(she turns 7 in apr) to 18 yrs.). Those girls all warm up together and then split between the 2 coaches when they work on bars/beam/vault... I know the 6 year old does not come every day to practice with the rest of the girls... but it seems like they can train all the way up to 30 hours a week if they want and the older girls do... even for level 5. I was just curious to kow how they structure and if they have a set system in place for hours etc. at your gym... I have no clue how our gym will move our girls up and then start a new pre-team - which I have heard there is a waiting list for - especially for only 2 coaches - , but I am curious to see how it all comes together... nic

[Monkeygirlsmom]

Thanks for your answers!(I wasnt sure If I was clear or not!! ) I knew it in my head but then writing it to me it sounded wierd but you hit it on the nail what I was lookijng for!!

I have seen Comp leos for a goup higher! but not sure where they compete!
One of hte coaches last year brought it up to me about How my dd has Ability and listens better than most kids her age!! thats how she got put up so high!!

the coaches Tell us when they can move up a level and we sign up for the days we want (there are certain times for certain levels Since we use the local Highschool gym wich in the winter Can be a ton of fun cause they see the Highschool girls work out!! WE actually have both the Towns highschools work out at this one since the other has a team but no gym)

My kids do not want to change gyms since they LOVE there coaches and they are soo close (we could actually walk there).
I def know this summer she will go more often !! for one no preschool classes to pay for anymore so that will help!!! (Money is an issue for us!!)
Plus during the year she is in DAnce as well!! Wich she has fun at!! But her first love is Gymnastics!! (I do like them learning about other sports and have a chance to try them out!!)

[Megley]

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our pre-team girls are from 5 - 12 yrs and they all work on the same skills, they progress to new skills together and then I guess, ( I still have no clue ) they pull certain girls to team when they decide they are ready.... now our coaches train our pre-team AND they train the team girls which are levels 5 - 10 (ages range from 6 yrs.(she turns 7 in apr) to 18 yrs.). Those girls all warm up together and then split between the 2 coaches when they work on bars/beam/vault... I know the 6 year old does not come every day to practice with the rest of the girls... but it seems like they can train all the way up to 30 hours a week if they want and the older girls do... even for level 5. I was just curious to kow how they structure and if they have a set system in place for hours etc. at your gym... I have no clue how our gym will move our girls up and then start a new pre-team - which I have heard there is a waiting list for - especially for only 2 coaches - , but I am curious to see how it all comes together... nic

Nic, she actually starts April 6th with the extra hours so I'm not sure how it will go. If I had to guess, I would say that it won't be a problem because she seems to have plenty of energy for more gymnastics. Our system works differently from your gym in that they work more on a season by season basis. In other words, kids are moved from preteam to team around this time of year. I think the reason for adding an extra 3 hours now is to get them ready for 12 hours a week over the summer. Our Level 4s go 12-14 hours, Level 5s go 16-18 hours, Level 6s go 20-24 hours. After Level 6, I am not sure but I think it levels off at around 24 hours during the school season with more time available in the summers. There are options to do a range of hours but you couldn't go 30 hours at Level 4 even if you wanted to.

The rationale for the season to season thing, as I understand it, is to have a set group of girls as Level 4s (or whatever Level) for particular competition season. I don't think they don't move anyone up mid-season unless some super talented kid walks into the gym. The move-ups are done around this time of year so that the kids can work over the summer getting all the skills and learning the routines and then spend the fall fine tuning to get ready for competition season, which starts in January. There are different coaches for different levels so the preteam coaches are generally different from the Level 4 coaches, Level 5 coaches, etc. There are two coaches for each Level. Now there are some exceptions to that. One of the preteam coaches is also one of the Level 4 coaches, probably because he needs to be able to work with the girls day to day to see who should be moved up.

As far as criteria for moveups, I am not 100% sure on that but I believe that as the preteam works out together (they do move kids as necessary into preteam at any time from either rec or developmental) and learns the Level 4/5 skills, the coaches try to gauge which girls are acquiring skills and progressing and which are not. The age range is 5-9. Frankly, even I can see that some of the girls progress faster than others. There are also some parents/girls who are using preteam as another activity, along with dance and soccer or whatever, but don't ever plan to compete. I don't believe move ups are dependent on there being a set number of slots to move into. This year's Level 4 team is quite large - 20 girls. Next year's is likely to be smaller because most of the Level 4 team is going to Level 5 and there aren't that many being moved up.

All that being said, where we are currently is not an elite level gym. They have a few Level 10s, including the current Virginia state HS champ, but no elites. If you want to train elite, the gym across town is the place to be. They do TOPS and Hopes and Junior Elite and have produced at least one gymnast who wound up with the Karolyis, they home school the girls at the gym, and train up to push talented girls to optionals quickly. I am not sure of the wisdom of this approach, but I guess it all depends on what you want out of gymnastics. We will cross that bridge if we have to, I guess.

Good grief, I just wrote a novel! LOL! Sorry about that being so long. I think the idea at our gym is to continually cycle kids from developmental to preteam to team and up the ladder on team on a yearly basis so that you are hopefully always moving up those kids that have potential.

Meg

[littlegymchampsmom]

meg, your gym sounds a little more like the norm... thanks for the info. I am curious to see how our gym handles switching and then handling the schedule. The coaches would have to be in the gym around the clock... crazy. The craziness is worth it though, our coaches are fabulous as far as providing really strong basics - which is key IMO. That is one thing that I know we will walk away with, no matter which direction my dd goes.

btw we have some girls on pre-team that don't know whether they will compete or not either... when they joined they could not even cartwheel, but the parents figured it would be less expensive then doing years of gymnastics and they would get more out of it, at the time I think anyone could join because the program was brand new... it was actually smart thinking, a year later they can do a lot more than girls I have seen that have been in the gym for 5 years... now it would be different if the program had been around a while, and not fair - because I am sure that the spot could be taken up by a girl that really wanted to compete etc., but in this case it worked out okay.

[littlegymchampsmom]

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Originally Posted by Monkeygirlsmom Thanks for your answers!(I wasnt sure If I was clear or not!! ) I knew it in my head but then writing it to me it sounded wierd but you hit it on the nail what I was lookijng for!! I have seen Comp leos for a goup higher! but not sure where they compete! One of hte coaches last year brought it up to me about How my dd has Ability and listens better than most kids her age!! thats how she got put up so high!! the coaches Tell us when they can move up a level and we sign up for the days we want (there are certain times for certain levels Since we use the local Highschool gym wich in the winter Can be a ton of fun cause they see the Highschool girls work out!! WE actually have both the Towns highschools work out at this one since the other has a team but no gym) My kids do not want to change gyms since they LOVE there coaches and they are soo close (we could actually walk there). I def know this summer she will go more often !! for one no preschool classes to pay for anymore so that will help!!! (Money is an issue for us!!) Plus during the year she is in DAnce as well!! Wich she has fun at!! But her first love is Gymnastics!! (I do like them learning about other sports and have a chance to try them out!!)

It sounds like your girls are having fun and very happy where they are.. I would feel the same way about switching under those circumstances... our gym is close too, which is great. Some of the girls on team in our gym travel an hour each way - yikes! all because they have had our coaches since they were little... the coaches can and do make a difference

[Tumblequeensmom]

Hi Meg... I thought Gymstrada was an elite level gym! Isn't it funny the perceptions from one end of the state to another? Just out of curiosity, which gym down there IS an elite level gym?

My daughter just had her second sectional just this past weekend... she did a fantastic job... finally got above a 9 on her floor routine - whoo hoo!!! She was so excited to bring home two blue ribbins and two red. Another mom and I looked at each other, laughed and joked "since when is getting an 8 point something NOT a good score???" That puts it in perspective, doesn't it?

Anyway, we did notice that most of the gyms down in the southern part fo the state seem to practice their level 4's more than our 7 1/2 hours per week (I think we practice the least amount of any of the teams I've looked at online). I even found one last night that practices for 12 hours a week. That seems to me an awful lot for these girls just starting out on team. Oh well... now my post is running too long too!

[Megley]

Tumblequeensmom, I am a newbie parent but as far as I know we don't have any elites at Gymstrada. There are a few good Level 10s, though, including the girl who just won the Virginia state HS championship. Excalibur is the gym here that produces elites and participates in all those USAG programs like TOPs and Hopes, etc. Our Level 4 team goes 12 hours a week, which is what L will be doing this summer. It does seem like a lot of hours for a 5 year old and I'm a bit anxious about it, but they all seem to take it in stride. Congratulations to your daughter on this weekend's meet!

Meg