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Old 04-26-2008, 01:58 PM
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Back up vault?

Do you do two different vaults at meets like an easier one as a back up one?
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My daughter does tsuk and if it is good she does yerchenko. Same start value but different vault.
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Some girls do. I always warmed up two vaults, then if I made my first vault I tried the harder one.
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Even our level 1,2, and 3's have their back up vaults. For most of them we compete one bonus vault and one core vault, instead of doing the same bonus vault twice. It is quite helpful as the kids don't always get the highest scores on the vaulkts with the highest start values.
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Yes. I've always been prepped for two vaults.
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I think you guys are a lot more disciplined than I was at meets.

I didn't really have a backup vault, so much as I had a handfull of vaults to choose from, depending on how I was feeling during warm ups and how each vault was looking the night before. Sometimes I'd go with a handspring front, sometimes a tucked tsuk, sometimes a layout kazamatsu, sometimes a layout kazamatsu. All depended on which one I felt like doing on that particular day.

First time I competed a layout tsuk was about 5 minutes after the first time I ever tried one (I decided to try it laid out during warm-ups, because I was overrotating it tucked. I landed it, so I competed it.) First time I ever tried a kazumatsu was at a friday night practice, and I competed it the following morning.

Floor was similar; I made up my floor routines on the spot at each meet, depending on how much out of bounds room there was at each corner, where the judge was sitting, and which skills felt good during warmup. (This works a lot better for guys than it does for girls)
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Yes, its a lot harder to make up your floor routine on the spot when it has to be coreographed to fit with the music.
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Yes, its a lot harder to make up your floor routine on the spot when it has to be coreographed to fit with the music.
I was going to say...my coach would have a fit
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Even our level 1,2, and 3's have their back up vaults. For most of them we compete one bonus vault and one core vault, instead of doing the same bonus vault twice. It is quite helpful as the kids don't always get the highest scores on the vaulkts with the highest start values.
I'm curious about your levels 1, 2 and 3. Our lower levels only learn one very basic vault but they get two chances at the meets. What kinds of vaults to your lower levels learn? How do they correspond with our levels?
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Our optional gymnasts compete only their main vault (a tsuk or yurchenko, etc.), but I guess through L8 a fhs vault could still be an option and if executed well could actually be a high score for a gymnast. I have seen a L8 compete a fhs and score in the mid 9's - not sure what the start value is.

I am not sure if this is still true, but this vault was a part of the jr elite progression. (btw these Aus. elite progression vids are adorable) Is it the same country wide? I know that you mentioned that gymnasts can be put on 2 seperate tracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDQ0Pm-PoI0
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