tsuk or yurchenko?

[gymnaSTICKs]

at all the meets i go to, almost all of the girls level 8 or up do yurchenko vaults... i see very, very few tsuks. just curious - why is this? if you do one of those, which one?

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Where do you compete?

In NC (at least at the meets I go to), there are typically a lot of tsuks and only a couple yurchenkos.

A Yurchenko, from my observations, is harder to learn, but easier to do cleanly once learned.

[hammy]

Personally, I think yurchenkos are becoming the new Tsuk now that the vault table makes it safer and easier to perform them. I have also noticed that a lot more level 8s are competing yurchenkos instead of tusks. I competed both vaults, and I personally think that the yurchenko was easier to do; plus, it gave me more options for vaults.

[Jojogymgirl]

I compete a yurchenko layout full. I was learning a tuck tsuk when I was going into level 8, but I never competed it. In my opinion, a tsuk is harder to perform twisting and higher difficulty vaults on. The yurchenko has more options- tuck, pike, layout, twist, half-on, front pike off, etc. Plus, it is easier to get the start values up. However, I do see more guys in gymnastics doing front entry and tsuk entry vaults than us girls.

[mygirlflipz]

In our gym in the US, girls were training both. Right now, my daughter is training her tsuke. I thought it might be because her gym is called Tsukahara Gymnastics in Japan and the gym is run by Mitsuo Tsukahara who was the first man to compete the move. I just asked her and she said girls are training and competing both. Most of the elite girls are actually competing the yurchecko. She said they told her which vault she would do so maybe they can determine with would be best for her to start with based on her strengths and weaknesses.

[gymnomore]

My dd did a handspring-full as a level 8 only because her coach did not bother to teach her a tsuk. There was no reason for that as she was doing 9.5 handsprings as a level 7. Everyone else on the team did tsuks, but they were somewhat weak. As a result, when dd 'hit' her handspring-full, she was scoring higher than many of the tsuks, even though the start value of a handspring-full was only a 9.4. After the season, she learned a handspring front tuck. She is in the process of learning tsuks. Does anyone know which of these skills has a higher start value?

[Shawn]

Okay, can someone please explain (in great detail) what a yurchenko is and what a tsuk is? I've tried to find info online but in the videos, it's performed so fast I can't tell what they're doing.

[Ingymmom]

Basically a yurchenko vault is all vaults with a round-off entry. A round-off onto the springboard and a back handspring onto vaulting table. from the bhs the gymnast would perform some sort of salto - there are many - before landing their feet on the mat.

A tsuk is any vault that has a handspring with 1/4 - 1/2 turn onto the vault table into a salto backwards is classified as a Tsukahara vault. Basically a punch off the springboard round-off on the vault table, then some sort of backward salto.

[I-Heart-Beam]

Yurchenko for me!!! I'm always scared i miss the table when I tsuk but I guess theres more chance of that on yurchenko...

[gymnaSTICKs]

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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Taucer Where do you compete? In NC (at least at the meets I go to), there are typically a lot of tsuks and only a couple yurchenkos. A Yurchenko, from my observations, is harder to learn, but easier to do cleanly once learned.

I compete in the Minnesota/Wisconsin area - interesting how gymnasts in different states have tendencies to do different skills.