Are "inside" turns rated the same as regular gymnastics turns?

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Sarah_the_gymnast

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I know the one is a triple turn, and the other is a double on beam, but bear with me. I couldn't find better GIFs. So basically, is a turn the dancer way rated the same as a regular turn if it has the same number of rotations, etc.

I'm inclined to say no, as in dancer turns are rated lower, but who knows?


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In FIG COP, yes. You only get the skill value once even if you do the same turn in both directions, unless it's a direct connection and both of the turns are other than passé turns.

You can connect two turns in a two different ways. The number one would be the way Sanne Wevers for example connects her turns on beam - she does them on different feet. The other, less common way is to do the turns on the same foot and have a quick demi plié in betweeen.
 
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The turns are called "en dedan" and "en dehor", though which way around they go I'm not sure. I think dehor is outwards and dedan inwards, but don't quote me on that.

In the FIG COP, en dedan and en dehor are both credited the same difficulty. However, a turn is only credited once in a routine. The exception is if you perform them in a series, at which point both receive credit.
 

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I could be wrong, but just for reference I believe the turn towards the back leg (the ballet turn above) is the outside pirouette, and the turn towards the front leg (the gym one) is the inside pirouette.
 
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The turns are called "en dedan" and "en dehor", though which way around they go I'm not sure. I think dehor is outwards and dedan inwards, but don't quote me on that.

In the FIG COP, en dedan and en dehor are both credited the same difficulty. However, a turn is only credited once in a routine. The exception is if you perform them in a series, at which point both receive credit.
Yes you're right, en dehor is outwards (think "en dehor out the door", it's a little rhyme), and en dedan is inwards.
 

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guys can we put an "s" on there, I know, I'm a pedant, but it just looks so wrong,

en dedans
en dehors

I feel sooooooo much better now,

wanders off to take her happy pills...........
 

azara

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guys can we put an "s" on there, I know, I'm a pedant, but it just looks so wrong,

en dedans
en dehors

I feel sooooooo much better now,

wanders off to take her happy pills...........
Thanks for the correction, I should have known to add a silent "s" (considering it's French!)
 

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There is no 's' in the new CoP. I just happened to come across it today. Coincidence...
 

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There is no 's' in the new CoP. I just happened to come across it today. Coincidence...
I wish gymnastics would stop pretending that it has any relationship to ballet. I am tired of hearing my gymnast "correct" my ballet terminology. Coupe and passe are movements, not positions. And what gymnastics calls a chasse, my ballet teacher calls a "glump."
 
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I wish gymnastics would stop pretending that it has any relationship to ballet. I am tired of hearing my gymnast "correct" my ballet terminology. Coupe and passe are movements, not positions. And what gymnastics calls a chasse, my ballet teacher calls a "glump."
[emoji23][emoji23] GLUMP !!
 
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