Dear Judges and Coaches,
- Curved run on floor for Level 5 and 6. Many gymnasts are not curving the steps, not using their head or body or arms the way the text states. Deduct for this in your text errors only. You may take .10 for every extra step or any steps left out of the run. You can also consider artistry errors here.
If you've been to any of the JO Committee's workshops, Laurie Reid, Tom Koll, Cheryl Jarret, etc. and I've been to them all at least once (Laurie was actually my first coach), then you know they preach the TEXT is the BIBLE OF GYMNASTICS. The pictures in the Handbook are not accurate, the video's released by various professionals are not guaranteed accurate. Go by the text.If you have the base tape watch this part. TOM KNOLL says step should be toward the corner with the foot facting the side this is where the confusion is coming from!
Your statement makes no sense to me. Stepping 45 degrees off of the floor's will always take you to a side. If you want to step in between the corner and the side, you would have to step 22.5 degrees. A sideways step would be 90 degrees.(the first step moves diagonally, 45 degrees to the Right)."
Diagonally means the gymnast's diagonal, not the floor's diagonal. Stepping on the diagonal would be a straight forward step. So the answer is not forward, not sideways... but in between.
Really either of the choices for the survey are incorrect.
It is a little confusing but I guess would interpret the text to mean what you are calling a side step. With the gymnast facing the corner (after the waltz step thing) if you were to draw a line straight ahead (connecting to the corner, we'll call this x) and then out from the gymnast's side (connecting to the side of the floor I guess, we'll call this z. It won't be straight out). The gymnast is upright, y, so we have a 3D "corner" with 90* angles. Stepping 45* to the right from x will the true side step if you were to draw a radian. What confuses me is "the gymnast moves diagonally" part since that doesn't really seem like a diagonal movement to me. If we interpret x to be connecting to the opposite side of the floor (if a true square was simply drawn in the corner - imagine gymnast as a dot on the 45 degree line from the corner and then connect straight lines to the side) then the 45* line is obviously along the floor's diagonal. However in the first model, I guess the 45* step towards the SIDE of the floor would be the gymnast's diagonal.)Your statement makes no sense to me. Stepping 45 degrees off of the floor's will always take you to a side. If you want to step in between the corner and the side, you would have to step 22.5 degrees. A sideways step would be 90 degrees.
Yes...we teach it the exact same way.I just quoted directly from the text as it is written. Let me try and write this without any geometry or usage of degrees, or X, Y, Z. You have the gymnast standing on the floor facing the corner she landed in. Now, draw a circle around her, and label it as a clock, 12:00, 1:00, 2:00, 3:00. Straight forward to the corner is 12 o'clock high. If she was to stick her right leg or arm directly out to the side that would be 3:00. The text is prescribing a step exactly 1/2 way between 12:00 and 3:00... or about 7.5 minutes, right smack between the 1:00 and 2:00.
Does that clarify things for you... taking the overly simplified geometric language stated in the text out of the picture?
I'm a judge/coach/gymnast, and you always go by the text (or the latest errata). As emacmommy quoted, the gymnast steps to her diagonal, which is towards the side of the floor.This part has just caused so many disagreements at our club...I want as much input at possible in this thread. So please, keep it coming.