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Scoring? Im confused!

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gymbrat4life

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Mar 12, 2009
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I dont get how the judges score. You flip over the vault. What is there to really score? Is a 8.7 BAD? :vault:
 

marie83

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hehe there is more to vault than meets the eye!

I'm not a judge, but I am a coach - vault is my least favourite apparatus to coach because there are so many things going on.

There are 4 phases - Run up, First flight, repulsion, 2nd flight, landing


Judges don't tend to judge the run up itself, but if it goes wrong, there is a negative reaction to the other phases.
The first flight is from the board to the table. It obviously depends on which vault is being performed as to what the judges are looking for, but lets take a 'simple' handspring for example

poor technique includes:

first flight
Hip angle
Arched back
legs separated
Knees bent

Repulsion
Shoulder angle
Arched back
Bent arms

Second flight
Legs separated
Knees bent
Failure to maintain stretched body position
lack of height
lack of distance

Landing
Legs apart
Movements to maintain balance
Deviation from a straight direction

General
Insufficient dynamics

A judge can take up to 0.5 off for each of these faults and a whole mark if the gymnast falls. So there is a lot of room for losing marks on vault.

As for whether 8.7 is bad, it really does depend on the start value of the vault!

Hope that helps!
 

gymluvr33

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Jul 31, 2008
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As marie83 said, there really is more to vault than meets the eye! But as to the 8.7, I think that it is a great score! And as you keep working on it, it will get better and better! But don't be frustrated if your score fluctuates, judging is very subjective. Good luck!
 
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KBT

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I dont get how the judges score. You flip over the vault. What is there to really score? Is a 8.7 BAD? :vault:


Here are the most common things I deduct for on vault:
-Bent legs or piking at the hips at any phase during the vault (and if you do it in pre and post flight you get deducted twice)
-Steps on landing
-Chest down on landing
-Bent arms while blocking off the horse
-Incomplete twists or twisting too early (i.e. doing a 1/4 turn on the horse on a handspring full vault). Twists must be exact.
-Height and distance. This is a big one that most gymnasts don't realize, but it's how I distinguish a good vault from a great one. In the high school rules, I can deduct up to 0.8 for height and distance and I take something on nearly every vault.
 

gymkat

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Also failure to leave the vault by vertical- up to 1.0. Very common deduction in L5/6.
 
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gym4life915

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Depending on the level and your start value, on 8.7 could be good or bad. In my opinion anything over an 8.5 is good from vault but this is coming from the level 10 who can't vault for life of her.
 
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