Vaccine release in Nov

Vaccine tentative release Nov... yes or no for you and yours

  • No, I and my family will not.

    Votes: 32 54.2%
  • Yes, I and my family will.

    Votes: 23 39.0%
  • Mixed, some in our family will and some will not.

    Votes: 4 6.8%

  • Total voters
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JessSyd

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Unless it turns out to be someone in the placebo group, which I am sure is the outcome they are hoping for. It is very serious, so you definitely wouldn’t want to roll out a vaccine until you could be sure it was an extremely rare reaction.

I know two people who had TM. One recovered completely and one was left with significant lifelong disability.

95% of would-be vaccines that get to three fail at that phase. It would be a miracle if one of the first ones to get there turned out to be one of the 5%
 
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Dahlia

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Unless it turns out to be someone in the placebo group, which I am sure is the outcome they are hoping for. It is very serious, so you definitely wouldn’t want to roll out a vaccine until you could be sure it was an extremely rare reaction.

I know two people who had TM. One recovered completely and one was left with significant lifelong disability.

95% of would-be vaccines that get to three fail at that phase. It would be a miracle if one of the first ones to get there turned out to be one of the 5%
I read that it was not in the placebo group (this was said by the same person who leaked that it was TM).
 
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Freddy's Fred

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I read that it was not in the placebo group (this was said by the same person who leaked that it was TM).
There would be no way to know if they were in the placebo group at this time.
 

gymgal

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excerpt from the article
"... Soriot also confirmed that the clinical trial was halted once previously in July after a participant experienced neurological symptoms. Upon further examination, that participant was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, deemed to be unrelated to the Covid-19 vaccine treatment, he said. ..."

Would love to know how they could deem that the dx of MS was unrelated to the vaccine treatment. Even if the participant was showing signs of early MS prior to the trial, the trial could have sped the process along - caused a bigger trigger event.
 
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Dahlia

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excerpt from the article
"... Soriot also confirmed that the clinical trial was halted once previously in July after a participant experienced neurological symptoms. Upon further examination, that participant was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, deemed to be unrelated to the Covid-19 vaccine treatment, he said. ..."

Would love to know how they could deem that the dx of MS was unrelated to the vaccine treatment. Even if the participant was showing signs of early MS prior to the trial, the trial could have sped the process along - caused a bigger trigger event.
I had the same thought. They would have been excluded if showing signs (phase 1 and 2 only enrolled healthy adults). It's possible they were placebo, but if not that seems odd.
 
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gymgal

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I had the same thought. They would have been excluded if showing signs (phase 1 and 2 only enrolled healthy adults). It's possible they were placebo, but if not that seems odd.
true about the placebo group. I hadn't thought of that. And they would have had to halt the study to determine if the person was in the placebo group. Makes sense.
 

FlippinPrincess

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excerpt from the article
"... Soriot also confirmed that the clinical trial was halted once previously in July after a participant experienced neurological symptoms. Upon further examination, that participant was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, deemed to be unrelated to the Covid-19 vaccine treatment, he said. ..."

Would love to know how they could deem that the dx of MS was unrelated to the vaccine treatment. Even if the participant was showing signs of early MS prior to the trial, the trial could have sped the process along - caused a bigger trigger event.
I thought the same thing. Don't you have to have a medical exam to show you're healthy before participating?
 

ldw4mlo

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I’m part of the Pfizer/Biontech trial. Getting my second dose (or placebo) next week. I’m a doctor, I trust science and I trust the process. Call me a sheep.
If there was a trial close to me I would of signed up. Thank you
 
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