Xcel diamond skills

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What skills would I need for bars beam and floor. I have around level 8 skills. Could I do a level 8 bar routine but not do a clear hip and meet all of the requirements?
 
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What skills would I need for bars beam and floor. I have around level 8 skills. Could I do a level 8 bar routine but not do a clear hip and meet all of the requirements?
So you can do level 8 skills but if you don`t do a clear hip you have to add something else in there then you will can get all of the requirementa.
 

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Yes, a level 8 routine without clear hip would by fine. You don't need a 3/6/7 circle like in level 8, the circles just have to be B's(like giants).

You just need 5 A's, 2 B's and:
-cast or other clear support skill at least 45 from vert
-B circle
-other B(release,pirouette or 2nd circle)
-slato or hecht dismount

And you don't even need a pirouette or release(like in level 8). If you have giants easiest diamond routine is:
kip/squat on
kip/cast handstand
giant
giant
flyaway
 
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Yes, a level 8 routine without clear hip would by fine. You don't need a 3/6/7 circle like in level 8, the circles just have to be B's(like giants).

You just need 5 A's, 2 B's and:
-cast or other clear support skill at least 45 from vert
-B circle
-other B(release,pirouette or 2nd circle)
-slato or hecht dismount

And you don't even need a pirouette or release(like in level 8). If you have giants easiest diamond routine is:
kip/squat on
kip/cast handstand
giant
giant
flyaway
you need a pirouette i am a level 8 gymnast you don`t need a release
 

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you need a pirouette i am a level 8 gymnast you don`t need a release
The requirement for level 8 UB is a B flight or turn. Most do pirouettes but a B flight like a toe Hecht or shoot over fullfills the same requirement. Diamond has even more options as a B flight, turn or circle can fulfill that requirement. I’m a judge.
 
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And you don't even need a pirouette or release(like in level 8). If you have giants easiest diamond routine is:
kip/squat on
kip/cast handstand
giant
giant
flyaway
I don't believe your sample routine meets diamond requirements. The complicated part is that the 2nd B circling/turning/release skill has to be different from the 1st circle. In Xcel, doing the exact same skill on the low bar counts as a different skill that one done on the high bar. For instance, a routine with a freehip on low bar and a freehip on high bar to a flyaway can meet requirements. However, since both giants are performed on the high bar they still count as doing the same skill. I hope that makes sense.
 

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I don't believe your sample routine meets diamond requirements. The complicated part is that the 2nd B circling/turning/release skill has to be different from the 1st circle. In Xcel, doing the exact same skill on the low bar counts as a different skill that one done on the high bar. For instance, a routine with a freehip on low bar and a freehip on high bar to a flyaway can meet requirements. However, since both giants are performed on the high bar they still count as doing the same skill. I hope that makes sense.
Skill finishing in clear support min. 45º from vertical or above (not mount/dismount)
Minimum ‘B’ 360º Circling Skill
Minimum ‘B’ Skill-either a Release, Pirouette, or 2nd 360º Circling Skill (same/different from #2)
Salto/Hecht Dismount (from HB)

the code says “same/different” and the routine I listed above is actually cited as an example that fulfills all requirements in the Xcel code, on page 45 of digital version
 
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the code says “same/different” and the routine I listed above is actually cited as an example that fulfills all requirements in the Xcel code, on page 45 of digital version
You are 100% correct! I was remembering the old code that used to specify they had to be different. That rule has since changed, so thank you for the correction. I might delete my old post to avoid spreading misinformation.
 
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You are 100% correct! I was remembering the old code that used to specify they had to be different. That rule has since changed, so thank you for the correction. I might delete my old post to avoid spreading misinformation.
No problem! Xcel rules change so much it can make everyone’s head spin.
 
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