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I really appreciate your response, but it doesn't answer my question, at all, LOL! Like I said at the end of page 7, I understand WHY the vault table changed, but what I don't understand is: 1)WHY you all allowed girls to perform Yurchenko vaults before the table change when you (as you...

I'm not sure where I've gone wrong. Like I said, I didn't mean to offend anyone, and am seriously, honestly asking for your expert insight. This is a subject I've been wondering about ever since the vault table change, long before I had kids, and humbly ask for your input. I know there's...

I was a gymnast back before 1989, but I was also a kid then, so no, I didn't get the "coach" aspect of the sport. I was forced out of the sport because of money and divorce reasons, but have tried to keep up as much as my broken little heart could manage. :) I'm actually conditioning to get...

The part I'm not understanding is why *anyone*----you, the Eastern coaches, anyone----let girls perform a Yurchenko when you obviously knew how dangerous it was on that old equipment. Why did you and they think it was acceptable to risk a girl's safety for the more dangerous vault, besides the...

Yes, and these were the coaches I was talking about. I think you assumed I was making some exophobic statement about all foreign coaches in general, but I wasn't. I specifically referenced the influx of Eastern Bloc coaches we got when we had a coach shortage. Not the Belas and Martas and...

I agree that helping L condition outside of the gym might be really helpful. Perhaps while A is at team practice, you and L can spend at least part of that time stretching and conditioning so that her rec class time can be spent tightening up her skills with her new-found strength. Even if she...

Take it up with Dunno then. He said:

I'm taking this from the beloved Dunno's history dissertation on gymnastics in the US from the 60's to the present. Dunno said there was an influx of coaches from the Eastern Bloc who had been great gymnasts but lacked the university training in safety and whatnot because of Perestroika, and...

Okay, I've read the other thread, and now I have different questions: Why do you think the Yurchenko was admitted as a "safe enough" move when they had to change the vault table to achieve the safety of it? Meaning, do you think the influx of Eastern Bloc coaches who lacked the university...

I'm still reading that thread, but wanted to thank you for digging this out! It's fascinating! Thanks to Dunno for writing it up!

Okay, Dunno, so then you think WAG won't have any changes in equipment until girls start doing really dangerous things on the equipment? So, really, if the elite coaches are worth their salt, they will put their own limits on the sport out of fear for their gymnasts' safety? It takes a "bad"...

I'm not saying this woman isn't possibly toxic, but I have to agree with the PP that trying to sell things to a captive audience (like parents in a waiting room) is kind of uncool. I make and sell diaper creams, so I know how hard it is to start a business and that you have to work all the time...

Sure, but to extrapolate your reasoning further, we have to remember that Yurchenkos were far more entertaining than anything that had been done in the past, so instead of banning the skill because it was dangerous, they changed the equipment to make the more entertaining skills possible. I...

What skills are you needing to practice? If it's just small ones like a kip or pullover (things kids do without being spotted on the playground every day) then you're probably better with a mounted chin-up bar like the PP said, which are $15 at any sports store and designed to hold adults, and...

So you're basically saying that we have, indeed, already started coming close to the physical limit of skills on the current equipment, and could probably expect to see more equipment changes within the next 3-4 Olympics? You do think they will continue to change these things up to keep the...

Interesting; do you think we're "a long way" as in the difference from 1936 to 2012, or a "long way" as in we could add one or two more twists or whatnot to the hardest skills? What are the hardest skills you can see happening in the future on each event? As in, do you think it's possible to...

That brings up an interesting point, the equipment---you can make them harder to do skills on, but making them easier for skills is actually where you'll see any type of entertaining progression. People can only tell the difference between 9.0 and 10.0 when it comes to "perfection" for the most...

Yes, they were absolutely that close for everyone at one time----have you seen the 1936 Berlin Olympic reels? They're like parallel bars, only uneven. I'm assuming that's where the name came from. It's crazy how close they once were, and how relatively easy the "Olympic level" skills were...

True, and that's a good point, but I was reading somewhere the other day that some up-and-coming elite girl (no clue about name, sorry!) can now do that same vault but with three twists, which would obviously be worth more than McKayla's (and especially after she takes almost a year off, but who...

Really? That's very interesting! Do you have a link to an article or something on that I can read more on? That makes me wonder what other kinds of skills they might consider "undesirable". I have always read that it was because they thought standing on the high bar is too dangerous. Thanks...