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Saying that false accusations are more common than people think is different from "suggesting every claim of abuse may not be credible" or "presenting both sides of the argument." I absolutely believe that victim shaming is not your intent, but insisting that false allegations are more common...

Again, though, "I know of a case where I believe the allegation was false" (or two cases, or three cases) doesn't say anything about how common false allegations are. It says the number of false allegations is not zero, but I've never seen anyone claim that it is. I think "the processes in...

That seems reasonable to me! Thanks for clarifying :-)

Ah okay, I understand. To clarify, though, the question I meant to ask was not "Is there evidence that false reports occur?" I think we can all agree that some number of false reports occur. What I meant to question was the idea - which i see on this board a lot - that false reports occur "more...

I'm genuinely not sure what your point you're making. You've listed examples of what you believe to be false accusations, then said that genuine abuse can look like a false report. I believe that both of those things are true: false reports do exist (and you believe you've seen cases of this...

Do you have any evidence for that? As far as I'm aware, the evidence is pretty conclusive that false reporting of abuse is a) rare and b) not significantly different from false reporting of other crimes. (That doesn't mean it never happens or that people who are falsely accused do not suffer...

Thank you for clarifying. I think we're actually a lot more on the same page than I thought. I do think there's an argument for the information that someone is under investigation being public because if I were a parent looking for a gym, I would certainly want to know if there were serious...

That IS a big problem, and (yet) another example of how USAG has consistently failed both coaches and gymnasts. I think "Hey, let's remember that this is an ongoing investigation and no findings have been announced" is a valid sentiment, especially when we're talking about a specific person...

I simply can't like or highlight this enough. I'm consistently disappointed that the gymnastics community doesn't seem to have learned anything from the Nassar case (not only his abuse, but everything that came out about so many of the athletes' experiences with their coaches and training...

"Suzie got her feelings hurt" is not remotely the same thing as multiple families filing a formal complaint about verbal abuse. Schoolteachers ARE typically in the news when allegations of abuse are made. This coach, like any other, is of course entitled to the presumption of innocence, and if...

Just wanted to say how much I appreciate this response. I know I often catch myself in knee-jerk defensiveness if I feel like I'm being criticized in any way (which was truly not my intention with my post!) so I really appreciate you being willing to consider another POV. Thank you for being so...

I have to say I'm extremely uncomfortable with a lot of this thread. I think it's valid to discuss the importance of athletes feeling comfortable in whatever they wear, especially if they're being given something to wear rather than choosing it themselves (though I also agree that that's a...