Hi fellow chalk bucket parents and coaches I am new here and finally got up the nerve to post. I have a DD In a stars program that has all her level 4 skills but her kip. Is it your experience the gyms move them up to level 4 without it? Our gym does not have any other competing levels before 4. She currently has other level 5 skills she just is lagging behind at the moment on her kip. Also, she is 9 is this too old for level 4 I get the impression from our gym this is too old.