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How does the scoring at the elite level work? I know it's been around for several years now but I never took the time to completely understand it. Could someone give me comparisons....like a 9.5 is equal to a (insert appropriate score) at the elite level.

Thanks.....It takes me awhile to come around to change. :)
 
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:: USA Gymnastics :: This is a link that explains most of it. We use the system in Canada for all levels so we are pretty used to it. Takes a while to get over the 10 thing, also where we are there are bonus skills, so every girls does not have the same start value or A score. The deductions are also different, ie a fall is 0.8.
 

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It's changing this year, so where it used to be the 10 most difficult elements that made up the A score, it's now going to be 8. I haven't really figured out the other major changes happening, but I think there's going to be more connection bonus. It's really hard to say a certain score is comparable to a 9.5 under the old system because it depends on the apparatus. Last year, the best bar workers in the world had difficulty scores in the high 7s, while the best floor workers might have a difficulty score in the low to mid 6s. Because of the higher deductions, execution scores were fairly low. Anything in the 9s was really good. For women, I think the highest execution score in Beijing was Nastia's vault, which IIRC got a 9.5.
 
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:: USA Gymnastics :: This is a link that explains most of it. We use the system in Canada for all levels so we are pretty used to it. Takes a while to get over the 10 thing, also where we are there are bonus skills, so every girls does not have the same start value or A score. The deductions are also different, ie a fall is 0.8.

Same in UK used all the time but I think a fall is now one whole mark. EEEEkKK!
 

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Same in UK used all the time but I think a fall is now one whole mark. EEEEkKK!


I think it is here now too, it's a killer on beam!

The 9.5 eqivalent is hard to determine as not everyone starts with the same A or difficulty score. If a vault has a score of 15.75 and has a start value of 6.25 that would be your 9.5, but you have to know the A score to work out how well they did. That side is more confusing for sure. Even now I know and can add up in my head I sometimes get lost!:rolleyes:
 

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What happens is that the gymnast gets 2 scores and they are added together to make the final score. It is changing a little this year.

They get a D score (difficculty score) and an E score (execution score). The D score is an open ended score and it is for how difficult the routine is. At the elite level these tend to rangee from about 4.0-7.0 at the moment. Then they get their execution score and it is a mark out of 10.0. So say they get a 6.0 for D score and an 8.5 for E score they are added together and they end up with a score of 14.5.

OK so how is it all worked out.

D SCORE

This scorre is made up of 3 parts. 1. is the element value's, 2. is the compositional requirments (used to be called EGR's). 3. is the connection bonus.

For vault it is pretty simple each vault just has a D score and they get that. The lowest scoring vault is a handspring and it is worth a D score of 2.4, currently and handspring double front is the hardest womens vault and it is worth a 7.1.

For bars, beam and floor it is more complicated and uses the 3 area's above. First is the element value's where they take the top 10 elements in the routine. and assign a score 0.1 for an A, 0.2 for a B, 0.3 for a C and so on up to 0.7 for a G. But this is changing a bit this year. From now on it will only be the top 8 elements. And only a maximum of 5 of those elements can be acrobatics on beam and floor. At least 3 have to be dance.

So lets say the gymnast did 1 x F skill (0.6), 2 E skills (0.5 each), 3 D skills (0.4 each) and 1 C skill (0.3) and a B skiill (0.2) and theey were the highest then so far the D score is 3.3.

Next we add the compsotional requirements. There are 5 of these on each apparatus and each one the gymnast fulfills they get 0.5. For example on bars they are
1. Aflight skill from low to high bar and a flight skill from high to low bar
2. A D value dismount
3. A release skill to catch the same bar
4. 2 different close bar elements and skills going both fwds and backwards
5. A 360 degree poriouette in handstand.

So now lets imagine the gymnast fulfilled all 5 requirements they get 0.5 for each so that adds another 2.5 to their score and now they are on 5.8.

Finally there are the connection bonus's which are either 0.1 or 0.2. So add ios say 0.2 connection bonus and the gymnast has a start value of 6.0.

So that is how it is worked out, some gymnasts go for the easier routines with lower start values but get a higher E score, while others do the opposite.

EXECUTION SCORE

Now the E score, this is a mark out of 10.0, just like the old system, but the deductions are much harsher. They lose 0.1 for minor mistakes like unpointed toes, going a few seconds over time, a small bend in arms or legs, a small wobble on beam and so on.

They lose 0.3 for moderate mistakes like leg separatation, bents arms and legs, low casts, not enough split in leaps, lack of body tension, poor body shape and so on.

They lose 0.5 for major deductions like large bends in arms and legs, landing in a deep squat, large steps on landings and so on.

And for major things they lost 0.8. like falls. But again this is changing this year and it will be a full 1.00 for a fall. so then thats the E score.



We use this system in Australia for all gymnasts from level 1 and up. For our kids getting a 9.5 would proabaly be roughly equivolent to getting a 14. I think its good we use it for all levels because it helps it to be better understood by the general public.
 
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Thank you for all of the replies. That clarified it a lot. I've been watching some of the junior elites on youtube and had no idea if they scored well or not. I'll have some idea now.
 
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