The gym I coach at has recently decided to try the NGA competitive program as opposed to USAG. I have a group of NGA level 3 girls who mostly competed silver last year. They are older kids (avg. age is 11) and not your typical JO level 3 group. All they really want to do is learn new "cool" tricks, but their basics are either non existent or terrible and they lack dedication and focus. The NGA requirements for level 3 are similar to USAG level 2/3 so most of these kids will need to be brought back quite a bit in the skills they were competing (can't compete a squat on on bars or a barani off beam) and they are all incredibly frustrated as a result. They are not particularly coachable - they don't listen, spend lots of time sitting down/playing on equipment, make excuses or roll their eyes when given a correction etc. It has been a week and a half of working with this group and I am already at my wits end. I have tried to explain that if they put in the effort on the basics we can move on to more challenging skills at the end of a rotation but that only sticks for about a minute before they decide its not worth it because there is no instant gratification. I am fine with doing basics all night long but if they are loose and floppy are they improving at all? How do you get a group of kids that are older and not naturally talented to put in the effort?