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NOTE: I've moved a bunch of posts from other threads into this one to try to keep other threads on topic while still allowing a place for this discussion to continue. But let the records show that most of these posts were pulled from another thread, that this thread was started by me after the fact, so some of the discussion on this first page may appear a bit disjointed.
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[mod hat on]
Lately, the topic of racism in the world of gymnastics has come up in several threads. I think this is a subject which deserves dedicated discussion, and thus deserves its own thread. Before the discussion begins, I want to lay out a few things to keep in mind up front:
1) The broad social issue of racism touches on many different hot-button political issues. We generally try to shy away from discussion of politics here on CB, but in this case that may not be entirely possible. This being the case, we are slightly relaxing the no-politics rules for this thread.
2) We recognize that racism is a broad social issue, one in which the big-picture patterns are just as important as individual events; because of this, trying to confine the discussion within a narrow window can exclude details that are important to a meaningful discussion. This being the case, we will not be enforcing a hard-and-fast rule against exploration of broader issues, but to the extent possible we request you keep the discussion at least somewhat gymnastics-related.
And a few hard rules:
1) Keep it civil. If you find something in this thread offensive, you are allowed and even encouraged to talk about what you found offensive and why, but please try to do so in a way that leads to productive discussion, rather than mere escalation of insults.
(Corollary, and this is more suggestion than rule: if somebody tells you something you said was offensive, your first reaction should be to try to understand why it was offensive, not to explain why it wasn't)
2) What happens in this thread stays within this thread. If there are discussions in other threads that intersect with the topic of race in gymnastics, you are welcome to quote the necessary posts and respond here, and drop a link in the other thread, but you ARE NOT welcome to take posts from this thread and bring them up elsewhere.
3) Any slurs or other bigoted language will result in a ban. Hopefully this goes without saying.
We may add more to this post if we deem it necessary.
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[mod hat on]
Lately, the topic of racism in the world of gymnastics has come up in several threads. I think this is a subject which deserves dedicated discussion, and thus deserves its own thread. Before the discussion begins, I want to lay out a few things to keep in mind up front:
1) The broad social issue of racism touches on many different hot-button political issues. We generally try to shy away from discussion of politics here on CB, but in this case that may not be entirely possible. This being the case, we are slightly relaxing the no-politics rules for this thread.
2) We recognize that racism is a broad social issue, one in which the big-picture patterns are just as important as individual events; because of this, trying to confine the discussion within a narrow window can exclude details that are important to a meaningful discussion. This being the case, we will not be enforcing a hard-and-fast rule against exploration of broader issues, but to the extent possible we request you keep the discussion at least somewhat gymnastics-related.
And a few hard rules:
1) Keep it civil. If you find something in this thread offensive, you are allowed and even encouraged to talk about what you found offensive and why, but please try to do so in a way that leads to productive discussion, rather than mere escalation of insults.
(Corollary, and this is more suggestion than rule: if somebody tells you something you said was offensive, your first reaction should be to try to understand why it was offensive, not to explain why it wasn't)
2) What happens in this thread stays within this thread. If there are discussions in other threads that intersect with the topic of race in gymnastics, you are welcome to quote the necessary posts and respond here, and drop a link in the other thread, but you ARE NOT welcome to take posts from this thread and bring them up elsewhere.
3) Any slurs or other bigoted language will result in a ban. Hopefully this goes without saying.
We may add more to this post if we deem it necessary.
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