WAG pak vs. shoot over handstand

[EverywhereWeGo]

I notice some girls do the pak to get from high bar to the low bar, and some do the shoot over to handstand. What is the difference in difficulty between these two? How does a coach determine which he/she will teach the gymnast first (as a means from getting from high bar to low bar.) Is a matter of preference for each coach? Is one easier to teach and perform than the other? Thanks in advance.

 

[Deleted member D3987]

both are difficult. which works best for athlete. both are relatively easy to teach.

 

[cbifoja]

Is the shoot over also called a bail?

 

[Deleted member D3987]

yes, but moreover the bail is called a shoot over.

 

[Aero]

I would like to know why it's called a bail! Someone's name?

 

[Deleted member 14190]

the tiny ones usually do pak, so long as the have a solid glide and pirouette ,,, and of course, if they are any good at it!

 

[Deleted member D3987]

I would like to know why it's called a bail! Someone's name?

it comes from mens rings. to 'bail out of a handstand'.

 

[GymmieC]

Dunno, should the girls automatically work on getting to handstand in the bail? If so besides saying, "Shoot your toes to the ceiling." What other clear advice/directives could a 10 yo process that could help her to get to the hs position? Thanks.

 

[EverywhereWeGo]

the tiny ones usually do pak, so long as the have a solid glide and pirouette ,,, and of course, if they are any good at it!

It makes sense. DD's friend learned the pak first... but she is an itty bitty one. Thanks!